Oh, I got the Liodoro from orchidgarden.co.uk when they had an auction on eBay…There were a good few for sale at the orchid fair (38e) as well, though the ones I got are much bigger…I was trying to downsize a bit as I am rapidly running out of space, please let me know if you would like one…not sure if it is permitted though here on the forum…I was looking for 25e for one or might be swap for something interesting…